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		<title>Comment on Kiuchi Hitachino Nest Espresso Stout by David Jensen</title>
		<link>http://beer47.com/2010/03/kiuchi-hitachino-nest-espresso-stout/comment-page-1/#comment-763</link>
		<dc:creator>David Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And what would you have me pour a stout into, a coffee mug? An Imperial pint glass is a perfectly acceptable receptacle for stout.  

Here are some responses to your ridiculousness from twitter:

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tre3tx: @beer47 well, he obviously doesn&#039;t know his beer glassware and what can go into what...
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cajuncole: @beer47 SOME PEOPLE COMPLICATE THEIR LIVES. OUT OF THE BOTTLE, CAN, CANTINE, STIEN, MUG, FLUTE, OR TIN CUP. IT GOES DOWN AND DOES THE SAME.
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meddlingBanter: @beer47 must be a beer snob.
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thechadd: @beer47 Did he want you to drink it out of the bottle, instead?
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jimlavin: @beer47 sounds like a real beer zealot. He&#039;ll it&#039;s better than using plastic cups.
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hoffenator: @beer47 pour the espresso stout into a juice glass and I&#039;ll drink it without complaining.
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[private] @beer47 He just wanted you to know that he&#039;s more beercore than you. :-)
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stelis: Maybe you should have used a coffee cup?? RT @beer47 Some guy leaves a msg on the blog post for Espresso Stout complaining...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And what would you have me pour a stout into, a coffee mug? An Imperial pint glass is a perfectly acceptable receptacle for stout.  </p>
<p>Here are some responses to your ridiculousness from twitter:</p>
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tre3tx: @beer47 well, he obviously doesn&#8217;t know his beer glassware and what can go into what&#8230;</p>
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cajuncole: @beer47 SOME PEOPLE COMPLICATE THEIR LIVES. OUT OF THE BOTTLE, CAN, CANTINE, STIEN, MUG, FLUTE, OR TIN CUP. IT GOES DOWN AND DOES THE SAME.</p>
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meddlingBanter: @beer47 must be a beer snob.</p>
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thechadd: @beer47 Did he want you to drink it out of the bottle, instead?</p>
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jimlavin: @beer47 sounds like a real beer zealot. He&#8217;ll it&#8217;s better than using plastic cups.</p>
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hoffenator: @beer47 pour the espresso stout into a juice glass and I&#8217;ll drink it without complaining.</p>
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[private] @beer47 He just wanted you to know that he&#8217;s more beercore than you. <img src='http://beer47.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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stelis: Maybe you should have used a coffee cup?? RT @beer47 Some guy leaves a msg on the blog post for Espresso Stout complaining&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Protest the California Bill to Outlaw Coffee Stout, AB 1598 by Savory Tv</title>
		<link>http://beer47.com/2010/03/protest-the-california-bill-to-outlaw-coffee-stout-ab-1598/comment-page-1/#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator>Savory Tv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>California laws are ridiculously extreme at times.  If they outlaw coffee stout, they should also outlaw all caffeinated cocktails being sold at bars, ie vodka + redbull etc.  Unbelievable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California laws are ridiculously extreme at times.  If they outlaw coffee stout, they should also outlaw all caffeinated cocktails being sold at bars, ie vodka + redbull etc.  Unbelievable.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Kiuchi Hitachino Nest Espresso Stout by J.D. Flonkehoop</title>
		<link>http://beer47.com/2010/03/kiuchi-hitachino-nest-espresso-stout/comment-page-1/#comment-760</link>
		<dc:creator>J.D. Flonkehoop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HAve a look at the glass you poured it into. Bloody Amateur !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HAve a look at the glass you poured it into. Bloody Amateur !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Will California Outlaw Coffee Stout with Bill AB 1598? by Hoperatives - Short Hops: March 13, 2010</title>
		<link>http://beer47.com/2010/03/will-california-bill-ab-1598-outlaw-coffee-stout/comment-page-1/#comment-755</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoperatives - Short Hops: March 13, 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 14:02:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] ● Will California Outlaw Coffee Stout with Bill AB 1598? [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Protest the California Bill to Outlaw Coffee Stout, AB 1598 by Timbo</title>
		<link>http://beer47.com/2010/03/protest-the-california-bill-to-outlaw-coffee-stout-ab-1598/comment-page-1/#comment-754</link>
		<dc:creator>Timbo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Thanks for following up.  Do we have to visit the State Capitol to get some response from these folks that makes sense or at least clarifies their positions on this bill?

I&#039;m sharing this blog post to Facebook.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Thanks for following up.  Do we have to visit the State Capitol to get some response from these folks that makes sense or at least clarifies their positions on this bill?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sharing this blog post to Facebook.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Protest the California Bill to Outlaw Coffee Stout, AB 1598 by David Jensen</title>
		<link>http://beer47.com/2010/03/protest-the-california-bill-to-outlaw-coffee-stout-ab-1598/comment-page-1/#comment-753</link>
		<dc:creator>David Jensen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cris,

If you read the blog post carefully, the response was to a different person. I personally, have sent an email to both Assemblymember Beall as well as Assemblymember Coto and have not received response from either. I will update this post to make this more explicit.

The points that I made in my messages to Beall and Coto were different than what the other reader sent to your office. The other read simply asked you, &quot;Does this bill target beers such as a Coffee Stouts? Or is the intent alcholic energy drinks. Please clarify.&quot; I, however, expressed 3 points as to why this bill should be withdrawn completely.

I don&#039;t care that the bill does not intend to target coffee stouts, currently as written it is at best ambiguous. Furthermore, if there are FDA and and federal regulations that already regulate caffeine in alcohol products, why is there a need for AB 1598? There is none. It is a slippery slope down which we should not slide.

David Jensen
Beer47
http://beer47.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cris,</p>
<p>If you read the blog post carefully, the response was to a different person. I personally, have sent an email to both Assemblymember Beall as well as Assemblymember Coto and have not received response from either. I will update this post to make this more explicit.</p>
<p>The points that I made in my messages to Beall and Coto were different than what the other reader sent to your office. The other read simply asked you, &#8220;Does this bill target beers such as a Coffee Stouts? Or is the intent alcholic energy drinks. Please clarify.&#8221; I, however, expressed 3 points as to why this bill should be withdrawn completely.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t care that the bill does not intend to target coffee stouts, currently as written it is at best ambiguous. Furthermore, if there are FDA and and federal regulations that already regulate caffeine in alcohol products, why is there a need for AB 1598? There is none. It is a slippery slope down which we should not slide.</p>
<p>David Jensen<br />
Beer47<br />
<a href="http://beer47.com" rel="nofollow">http://beer47.com</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Protest the California Bill to Outlaw Coffee Stout, AB 1598 by Cris Forsyth</title>
		<link>http://beer47.com/2010/03/protest-the-california-bill-to-outlaw-coffee-stout-ab-1598/comment-page-1/#comment-752</link>
		<dc:creator>Cris Forsyth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 18:05:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mr. Jensen.

Since you have already posted a response from the Assembly Member regarding this issue it is unclear why you claim you have not heard from him.

You know it is not the Assembly Member&#039;s intention to make craft brewers who use coffee as a flavoring subject to the provisions of his legislaltion.

You also know the Assembly Member is currently working with representatives from the California Small Brewers Associaiton on language to make it clearer that craft brews using coffee as flavorings are not subject to the provisions of this legislation.

Please correct this inaccuracy in your blog.

Cris Forsyth
Chief of Staff
Assembly Member Jim Beall</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mr. Jensen.</p>
<p>Since you have already posted a response from the Assembly Member regarding this issue it is unclear why you claim you have not heard from him.</p>
<p>You know it is not the Assembly Member&#8217;s intention to make craft brewers who use coffee as a flavoring subject to the provisions of his legislaltion.</p>
<p>You also know the Assembly Member is currently working with representatives from the California Small Brewers Associaiton on language to make it clearer that craft brews using coffee as flavorings are not subject to the provisions of this legislation.</p>
<p>Please correct this inaccuracy in your blog.</p>
<p>Cris Forsyth<br />
Chief of Staff<br />
Assembly Member Jim Beall</p>
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		<title>Comment on Will California Outlaw Coffee Stout with Bill AB 1598? by Protest the California Bill to Outlaw Coffee Stout, AB 1598 &#124; Beer 47</title>
		<link>http://beer47.com/2010/03/will-california-bill-ab-1598-outlaw-coffee-stout/comment-page-1/#comment-748</link>
		<dc:creator>Protest the California Bill to Outlaw Coffee Stout, AB 1598 &#124; Beer 47</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] few days ago I posted an article about California Assembly Bill 1598, which is currently in committee and will potentially outlaw any malt beverage that contains [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on Will California Outlaw Coffee Stout with Bill AB 1598? by Mario (Brewed For Thought)</title>
		<link>http://beer47.com/2010/03/will-california-bill-ab-1598-outlaw-coffee-stout/comment-page-1/#comment-743</link>
		<dc:creator>Mario (Brewed For Thought)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A law to outlaw pre-packaged beverages containing stimulants and alcohol would be pointless.

Stimulant use (caffeine, guarana, taurine, ginseng, etc) paired with alcohol is incredibly common. These readily available malt beverages may be easy to point to, but the fact is that anyone can mix Red Bull and vodka. Drinking coffee before/while/after drinking alcohol would have the same effect.

So the law wants to ban purple paint but continue to sell red and blue. It&#039;s just stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A law to outlaw pre-packaged beverages containing stimulants and alcohol would be pointless.</p>
<p>Stimulant use (caffeine, guarana, taurine, ginseng, etc) paired with alcohol is incredibly common. These readily available malt beverages may be easy to point to, but the fact is that anyone can mix Red Bull and vodka. Drinking coffee before/while/after drinking alcohol would have the same effect.</p>
<p>So the law wants to ban purple paint but continue to sell red and blue. It&#8217;s just stupid.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Will California Outlaw Coffee Stout with Bill AB 1598? by Will</title>
		<link>http://beer47.com/2010/03/will-california-bill-ab-1598-outlaw-coffee-stout/comment-page-1/#comment-742</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is absurd that adding coffee to a beer. Could be considered the same as all the chemical ingredients that were capable of eating thru aluminum cans in sparks(yes, when first released it happened! Entire shipments recalled)! 

Please do not be passive on this issue! Just because it is not all over the news is not a fair reason to believe this issue won&#039;t pass! Do what you can to make this appear in every media possible. Every vote on this counts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is absurd that adding coffee to a beer. Could be considered the same as all the chemical ingredients that were capable of eating thru aluminum cans in sparks(yes, when first released it happened! Entire shipments recalled)! </p>
<p>Please do not be passive on this issue! Just because it is not all over the news is not a fair reason to believe this issue won&#8217;t pass! Do what you can to make this appear in every media possible. Every vote on this counts!</p>
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